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  How was it when you were a JW as a kid?

  by nevaagain in

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  whats worse than being an adult jw?

  when i was a kid i always had a bad concience all the time.

  i believed i would not survive armageddon for the fact that i didn't like going to service and i didnt like going to the meetings.

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  Bungi Bill

  I was eight years old when my grandmother began that part of the JW indoctrination process that they like to call the "Free Home Bible Study".

  At his mother's insistence, my father attended parts of a few assemblies,including the public talks. Significantly, he picked up immediately that it was pointless bringing children along to such events (this was about the time the "Babylon the Great" book was released) - as the content was clean over their heads. Was he right about that!

  Nonetheless, my father was placed under much pressure from his parents to bring us three children along to the meetings. Luckily for us all, he resisted.

  For that, I can't thank him enough!

  I wholeheartedly agree with his later description of the JW routine of five meetings a week (as it was then), plus Circuit Assemblies, District Conventions, Special Assemblies, International Assemblies etc - with mandatory attendance of both children as well as adults - as "inhuman."

  Bill.

  PS: How I managed to get snared in when a teenager is another story!
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  Witnesses - Ever Wondered Why You're So Tired After Assemblies/Meetings?

  by The Searcher in

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  recently shared this with me.. they compared the tiredness they felt after attending an assembly and meetings, and noted how much worse it was than actually working and studying hard for hours for their secular employment!

  why were they so exhausted after an assembly/meeting?

  no, it wasn't satan.

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  Bungi Bill

  That, and the constant badgering of the little ones to sit down, sit still, and be quiet. I don't miss the days of hanging out in the halls and watching parents whaling on their kids - spanking them mercilessly - usually because the parents were so stressed out and wound up by the oppressive nature of the message.

  It is straight out inhumane to expect small children to sit quietly through just one morning of an assembly - let alone the afternoon as well - then the day after that, and the day after that again.

  Statistically, we are told that two out of every three of those raised in "The Truth" end up giving it way. It is a miracle that they even manage to hang onto the one and three that do remain.

  I know for a certain that if I had been raised as a JW, they wouldn't have seen me for dust - just as soon as I could have bolted for it!

  Bill.
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  Not on a WTS Cover - Famine Continues to Decline

  by berrygerry in

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  that darn satan keeps confusing those horsies in apocalypse - they seem to be going in reverse.. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/global-hunger-calamitous-famine-eradicated-last-50-years.

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  Bungi Bill

  Oh, yes:

  - All the indicators that we are living in the "Last Days" are here all-right (Not!)

  Bill
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  New Zealand.

  by karter in

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  who lives here?.

  whos been here?.

  who wants to come here?.

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  Bungi Bill

  Who lives here?

  A lot more animals (including Hobbits!), than people:

  - although the situation is not as extreme as it was in the 1970s and early 80s, when there were 60 to 70 million head of sheep in the country, versus a population of barely three million people. (At the same time as this, prime minister Robert Muldoon was quietly trying to reduce the human population. He made immigration more difficult, and turned a blind eye to the significant numbers who were emigrating).

  Bill.
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  They would all fit on the isle of Wight?

  by purrpurr in

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  i remember once asking how the planet could possibly accommodate all the people who have ever lived?

  after the resurrection i mean.

  the answer i was told is that the gb had calculated that all the people who have ever lived could all fit on to the isle of wight?!.

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  Bungi Bill

  He's right, those deserts have a huge amount of water in their aquifers:

  Whether or not, though, there is enough water there to irrigate the entire expanse of desert is another matter.

  In the case of the Australian deserts, there certainly isn't. As an example, the site I was involved with (BHP Billiton's Olympic Dam mine) had to run a line of artesian bores out as far as 200 km away from the plant, just to bring in sufficient water for a mineral processing operation. That bore line could not deliver anywhere near enough water to turn the arid country in between into arable land (even if the bore water had been suitable for irrigation purposes - which it wasn't).

  Bill
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  They would all fit on the isle of Wight?

  by purrpurr in

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  i remember once asking how the planet could possibly accommodate all the people who have ever lived?

  after the resurrection i mean.

  the answer i was told is that the gb had calculated that all the people who have ever lived could all fit on to the isle of wight?!.

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  Bungi Bill

  rebel8

  This was accompanied by a small movement at the time to "green the desert". The belief was that you could pump water into the desert, plant trees, and soon it would no longer be the desert. Claims were made that the desert was so fertile that crops could grow overnight.
  

  It is not just the JWs that have come up with the "irrigating the deserts" story, either. I can remember once reading a Plain Truth magazine, in which the author (presumably H.W. Armstrong) made the claim that there are large bodies of water trapped in the ground beneath all the world's deserts - and thereby inferring that irrigation should not be much of a difficulty.
  

  Presumably, he got that idea from Australia's Great Artesian Basin, and then extrapolated this onto all other arid regions in the world. Even much of the water in the GAB is toxic. At the site I worked at on the edge of the desert in South Australia, the artesian water was seven times as saline as seawater. To make it in any way usable required a three-stage filtration process (including Reverse Osmosis filtration). They might as well have just said that, as most of the earth's surface is covered by oceans, irrigation / water supply should never be an issue!
  

  Bill
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  Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

  by mentallyfree31 in

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  who were your past circuit overseers?

  i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

  ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

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  Bungi Bill

  Forty-something years later, I still am unable to forget Rex Mainwaring!

  Do any others in Australia remember "Cyclone Rex"?

  He certainly terrorised us all in S.E. Queensland, when he went on a mission to re-invigorate "The Work", which had somewhat gone into decline during the immediate post-1975 years.

  Bill.

  PS: For "re-invigorate", read "kick-@$$"
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  Witnesses - Ever Wondered Why You're So Tired After Assemblies/Meetings?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
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  recently shared this with me.. they compared the tiredness they felt after attending an assembly and meetings, and noted how much worse it was than actually working and studying hard for hours for their secular employment!

  why were they so exhausted after an assembly/meeting?

  no, it wasn't satan.

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  Bungi Bill

  No - I never wondered why I always came back from assemblies/conventions in a worn-out state:

  - to me, that was never, ever a mystery.

  To steal a line from William Shakespeare, the JW assemblies and conventions (not to mention their meetings in general) all come under the heading of Much Ado About Nothing !

  Bill.
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  Governing body member engaged... Again!

  by OneDayillBeFree in

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  just found out that the australian governong body member known as geoffrey jackson got engaged to a sister about two weeks ago.

  it really shocked me at first but then i remembered how other members of the gb have remarried in the past like daniel sidlik.

  what made me say "woah" was hearing that the holy bride to be is really young!

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  Bungi Bill

  Did you guys know there is a polynesian place name called : Taumata-whaka-tanei-hanakoauau-o-tamatea-turipukaka-pikimaunga-horo-nuku-pokai-whenuakutana-tahu
  

  Here is a photograph of the place, the the Hawkes Bay region of New Zealand's North Island.

  

  Bill.
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  Hours will be going up

  by pbrow in

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  just got done watching parts of the october episode at jdub.broadcasting and it looks like the definition of "sacred service" is getting an update.

  construction work, helping out fellow dubs, even helping out non-beliebers and opposers will soon be adding up to record progress for publishers... gett ready for a huge increase in hours being reported.... can you hear it now??

  my how jw.org provides.... pbrow.

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  Bungi Bill

  What was that bull-story they once concocted about how their flip-flops in doctrine are just like sailing a yacht:

  - i.e. how it tacks to the left, then to the right while sailing into the wind, yet the overall direction of progress is forwards?

  For a time in the late 1970s, the WTS was saying this very same thing about what constituted "sacred service". That didn't last very long, though. It seemed to be recanted about the same time as Raymond Franz got dumped from the Governing Body.

  Bill.